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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

In <46A903A1.5C5A7BF2@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
:
:
: Hoofprints wrote:
: >
: > Kali wrote:
: > >
: > > In <46A8BDB7.7976E0C@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > > :
: > > :
: > > : Kali wrote:
: > > : >
: > > : > In <46A7667D.218B1D01@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > > : > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > > : > :
: > > : > :
: > > : > : Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA wrote:
: > > : > : >
: > > : > : > From : Hoofprints <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com>
: > > : > : > Message-ID : <46A4ED4F.DA739CFE@hotmail.com>
: > > : > : >
: > > : > : >
: > > : > : > >Who ever was complaining about kimcunt telephoning their home, that is
: > > : > : > >nothing, they were also calling here asking for Two Steps when he lived
: > > : > : > >here
: > > : > : >
: > > : > : > I hope my spirit didn't leave *there* without paying the rent.
: > > : > :
: > > : > : Your spirit left here without paying the rent..and food, and whatever
: > > : > : else was on the bill you are ignoring.
: > > : > : Damages were not included in the bill. Like ripped off shelves that
: > > : > : left holes etc. [you left in a tizzy and a hurry and also drunk].
: > > : >
: > > : > What do you expect from a gay bohemian?
: > > :
: > > : You really are not that bright yaknow.
: > > : If he came back here he would be in handcuffs tied to the pool table
: > > : legs. I will throw a mattress on the floor and kick his bowl over to
: > > : him periodically.
: > >
: > > Kinky!
: >
: > just your style eh!!
: > I don't have any handcuffs, but I think I know where to order the old
: > leather belts and cuffs.
: > I still have my cuff key from Sonoma on my work key holder.
: > No whistle though, I turned that back in down at Fairview.
: >
: > >
: > > : I would tie him to the sink in the bathroom, but he knows how to get out
: > >
: > > Oh, you tried that already?
: >
: > Howz about you pay the money he owes me, at a rate of 10% per day
: > interest.
: > You are the one who kept nominating both of us for AUK award after AUK
: > award, and then declared both of us 'DEAD'!!
: > Couldn't stand him living here could you?
:
: Hey kali,
: Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you can find a
: smaller interest rate on what you owe me. that way you actually save
: money even if it is a few percentage points under the 10% I want from
: you.

I owe you nothing.

: I don't mind losing the interest on $12,000.00, just want to get my
: house finished as was my original plan before you moved in and took over
: my home with your friends phone calls, your nominations, your false
: accusations about me.
: MS DDNoS Squawk.
: >

No one I know ever called you, Goofy. I just got you awards for
being a kook on Usenet. I'm not interested in your personal
life.

Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

In <46A9214F.B44E08DC@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
:
:
: John \"C\" wrote:
: >
: > "Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: >
: > > Hey kali,
: > > Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you can find a
: > > smaller interest rate on what you owe me.
: >
: > She can't get a loan while she's in bankruptcy. She's Bogus!
: >
: > HJ
:
: She's in Bankruptcy?!?

Get the hook out of your mouth, idiot.

: She has been bogus from the start.
: She can't file bankruptcy against her student loans, IIRC.
: She will be able to file for the loan after Bankruptcy Ct. Declares her
: Bankrupt.
: From what I understand, once you file you can't file for another 14
: years, so she should be able to get a loan that way.
: I never knew that until a few of my friends over the years filed, and
: then were offered Credit Cards up the ying yang by the banks.
:
: Wouldn't want her to accept responsibility. It just won't do. [sic]
:
Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46AA0864.91FB1426@hotmail.com...
Quote:


John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46A92823.1A485701@hotmail.com...


John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46A9214F.B44E08DC@hotmail.com...


John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Hey kali,
Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you can
find a
smaller interest rate on what you owe me.

She can't get a loan while she's in bankruptcy. She's Bogus!

HJ

She's in Bankruptcy?!?
She has been bogus from the start.
She can't file bankruptcy against her student loans, IIRC.
She will be able to file for the loan after Bankruptcy Ct.
Declares
her
Bankrupt.
From what I understand, once you file you can't file for another
14
years, so she should be able to get a loan that way.

One can declare bankruptcy twice in a seven year period. One
chapter 13
and
one chapter 7.

But on Chapter 7. You still have to pay your creditors?? or is that
Chapter 11?
At any rate, isn't chapter 7 a prelude to filing chapter 13?

Chapter 13 is: pay secured debts back over time (home and car) and don't
pay
unsecured debts (credit cards and medical bills). and if you can't pay
the
schedule then you file chapter 7 which wipes all debts (except student
loans). The only way student loans can be collected is by "eating" your
income tax refunds.

HJ (been there and done that)

So has my daughter. She got a huge return [she has children so gets
those 'credits' and deductions] and Student loan corp took her joint
refund. Then her husband filed some grievous whatever it was because
his income was figured into their joint return, and he wanted his half.

Paid off my student loan when I took out a mortgage on my home.

Some how my wife got her student loans deferred indefinitely. It was OK
with me.

HJ
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

In <1185548614.154419.22930@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
marcia design1@insight.rr.com said:
: On Jul 27, 10:57 am, Kali <k...@powder.keg> wrote:
: > In <Ud4qi.100715$LE1.61...@newsfe13.lga>, Sean Carroll seanc130
: > @hotmail.com said: : Kali wrote:
: >
: > :
: > : > There is no cabal, just communities concerned about crackers who
: > : > fry their brains using LSD.
: > :
: > : LSD does not 'fry brains'.
: >
: > Ignorant opinion stated as fact.
: >
: > : Try looking up the medical facts before you
: > : make such assertions.
: >
: > http://snipurl.com/effectlsd
: >
: > : This Dale Kelly fellow was BORN with a fried brain, and LSD is in no
: > : way, shape, or form responsible for the raving nutter he was before he
: > : ever took it.
: >
: > That's the alternative hypothesis.
:
: Doesn't seem like the hypotheses are mutually exclusive. It's possible
: he was born cross-wired, then fried what little cerebral cortex he had
: with lsd or other drugs. There! Now you can both be happy. :)

You are correct. ;)

: marcia
:

Kali
--
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research, would it?"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

In <46AA09A2.AA4E13E7@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
:
:
: Kali wrote:
: >
: > In <46A8D708.75099315@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > :
: > :
: > : Kali wrote:
: > : >
: > : > In <46A8BDB7.7976E0C@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > : > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > : > :
: > : > :
: > : > : Kali wrote:
: > : > : >
: > : > : > In <46A7667D.218B1D01@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > : > : > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA wrote:
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > From : Hoofprints <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com>
: > : > : > : > Message-ID : <46A4ED4F.DA739CFE@hotmail.com>
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > >Who ever was complaining about kimcunt telephoning their home, that is
: > : > : > : > >nothing, they were also calling here asking for Two Steps when he lived
: > : > : > : > >here
: > : > : > : >
: > : > : > : > I hope my spirit didn't leave *there* without paying the rent.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : Your spirit left here without paying the rent..and food, and whatever
: > : > : > : else was on the bill you are ignoring.
: > : > : > : Damages were not included in the bill. Like ripped off shelves that
: > : > : > : left holes etc. [you left in a tizzy and a hurry and also drunk].
: > : > : >
: > : > : > What do you expect from a gay bohemian?
: > : > :
: > : > : You really are not that bright yaknow.
: > : > : If he came back here he would be in handcuffs tied to the pool table
: > : > : legs. I will throw a mattress on the floor and kick his bowl over to
: > : > : him periodically.
: > : >
: > : > Kinky!
: > :
: > : just your style eh!!
: >
: > Apparently it's your style. You imagined it, you wrote it.
: >
: > : I don't have any handcuffs, but I think I know where to order the old
: > : leather belts and cuffs.
: > : I still have my cuff key from Sonoma on my work key holder.
: > : No whistle though, I turned that back in down at Fairview.
: >
: > Ok.
: >
: > : >
: > : > : I would tie him to the sink in the bathroom, but he knows how to get out
: > : >
: > : > Oh, you tried that already?
: > :
: > : Howz about you pay the money he owes me, at a rate of 10% per day
: > : interest.
: >
: > Money I owe you for what, precisely, Goofy?
: >
: > You going to post an itemized bill?
: >
: > : You are the one who kept nominating both of us for AUK award after AUK
: > : award, and then declared both of us 'DEAD'!!
: >
: > You really do have an impressive collection of Usenet/AUK
: > awards.
: >
: > : Couldn't stand him living here could you?
: >
: > He's a poseur. Not my type.
:
: The stay the fuck out of the thread ok.

Ummmm. No.

: Go play your internet mind game
: crap somewhere else, and quit sticking your nose in where it doesn't
: belong.

LOL. You're posting his dirty panties in spp, Goofy. Anyone can
read and anyone can respond. If you don't like it, you may
leave.

Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

"Kali" <kali@powder.keg> wrote in message
news:f8d1jk$b3$5@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
Quote:
In <46A9214F.B44E08DC@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
:
:
: John \"C\" wrote:
:
: > "Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
:
: > > Hey kali,
: > > Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you can find a
: > > smaller interest rate on what you owe me.
:
: > She can't get a loan while she's in bankruptcy. She's Bogus!
:
: > HJ
:
: She's in Bankruptcy?!?

Get the hook out of your mouth, idiot.

Oh, Kimberly Kay, you are such a bad liar:

Debtor: BARNARD KIMBERLY K
] Debtor Address: *** * ******* **
] ******* ** *****
] Record Type: CHAPTER 7 DISCHARGED
] Court: CENTRAL DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS
] 130 FEDERAL BLDG 201 NORTH VERMILION ST
] DANVILLE IL 61832
] Filing Date(mm-dd-yy): 11-17-97
] Judge Name or Initials: GDF
] File Type: INDIVIDUAL
] Case Number: 9792860
] Filer: INDIVIDUAL
] Pro Se: NO
] Attorney: ROBERT FOLLMER
] Attorney Address: POB 834
] PONTIAC IL 61764
] Attorney Phone Number: (815) 844-1050
] Trustee Name: GLEN R BARMAN
] Trustee Address: 200 E COURT STREET
] 502
] KANKAKEE IL 60901
] Trustee Phone Number: (815) 939-1133
] 341 Schedule Date (mm-dd-yy): 12-17-97
] Disposed Date(mm-dd-yy): 02-23-98
] Transaction Date(mm-dd-yyyy): 08-09-2003
]
] Debtor: BARNARD KIMBERLY K
] Address: ***** ***** **
] ***** **** ** *****
] Secured Party: IRS
] Record Type: INDIVIDUAL RECORD
] Action Type: FEDERAL TAX LIEN
] Association: SINGLE
] State: WI
] Court: WALWORTH COUNTY COURT - ELKHORN
] COURTHOUSE SQUARE P O BOX 1001
] ELKHORN WI 53121
] File Type: FEDERAL TAX LIEN
] Filing Number: 393061
] Filing Date: 09-14-1998
] Amount: $32,241.00
] Other Case Number: 399828004
]
] Debtor: BARNARD KIMBERLY K
] Address: ***** ***** **
] ***** **** ** *****
] Secured Party: IRS
] Record Type: INDIVIDUAL RECORD
] Action Type: FEDERAL TAX LIEN
] Association: SINGLE
] State: WI
] Court: WALWORTH COUNTY COURT - ELKHORN
] COURTHOUSE SQUARE P O BOX 1001
] ELKHORN WI 53121
] File Type: FEDERAL TAX LIEN RELEASE
] Filing Number: 0572510
] Filing Date: 09-14-1998
] Amount: $32,241.00
] Other Case Number: 399828004
] Release Date: 08-25-2003
]
] Debtor: BARNARD KIMBERLY K
] Address: ***** ***** **
] ***** **** ** *****
] Secured Party: STATE OF WISCONSIN
] Record Type: INDIVIDUAL RECORD
] Action Type: STATE TAX WARRANT
] Association: SINGLE
] State: WI
] Court: WALWORTH CIRCUIT COURT - ELKHORN
] COURTHOUSE SQUARE P O BOX 1001
] ELKHORN WI 53121
] File Type: STATE TAX WARRANT
] Filing Number: 6400174407
] Filing Date: 08-01-2002
] Amount: $52,884.00
]
] Debtor: BARNARD KIMBERLY K
] Address: ***** ***** **
] ***** **** ** *****
] Secured Party: STATE OF WISCONSIN
] Record Type: INDIVIDUAL RECORD
] Action Type: STATE TAX WARRANT
] Association: SINGLE
] State: WI
] Court: WALWORTH CIRCUIT COURT - ELKHORN
] COURTHOUSE SQUARE P O BOX 1001
] ELKHORN WI 53121
] File Type: STATE TAX WARRANT RELEASE
] Filing Number: 6400174407
] Filing Date: 08-01-2002
] Amount: $52,884.00
] Release Date: 12-02-2002
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

In <gfWdnYaCNebNkDfbnZ2dnUVZ_rOpnZ2d@centurytel.net>, John "C"
honestjohn@centurytel.net said:
:
: "Kali" <kali@powder.keg> wrote in message
: news:f8d1jk$b3$5@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
: > In <46A9214F.B44E08DC@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > :
: > :
: > : John \"C\" wrote:
: > : >
: > : > "Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: > : >
: > : > > Hey kali,
: > : > > Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you can find a
: > : > > smaller interest rate on what you owe me.
: > : >
: > : > She can't get a loan while she's in bankruptcy. She's Bogus!
: > : >
: > : > HJ
: > :
: > : She's in Bankruptcy?!?
: >
: > Get the hook out of your mouth, idiot.
:
: Oh, Kimberly Kay, you are such a bad liar:
:
: Debtor: BARNARD KIMBERLY K
: ] Debtor Address: *** * ******* **
: ] ******* ** *****
: ] Record Type: CHAPTER 7 DISCHARGED
: ] Court: CENTRAL DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS
: ] 130 FEDERAL BLDG 201 NORTH VERMILION ST
: ] DANVILLE IL 61832

That's not me, you disgusting, useless, RLing filth.

Not that there's anything wrong with it; it's there for a
reason, and I have nothing against anyone who's had a need for
the protection it offers. I've never filed, but I would if I
were advised to do so.

Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

"Kali" <kali@powder.keg> wrote in message
news:f8d31u$47e$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
Quote:
In <gfWdnYaCNebNkDfbnZ2dnUVZ_rOpnZ2d@centurytel.net>, John "C"
honestjohn@centurytel.net said:
:
: "Kali" <kali@powder.keg> wrote in message
: news:f8d1jk$b3$5@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
: > In <46A9214F.B44E08DC@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > :
: > :
: > : John \"C\" wrote:
: > :
: > : > "Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: > :
: > : > > Hey kali,
: > : > > Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you can find
a
: > : > > smaller interest rate on what you owe me.
: > :
: > : > She can't get a loan while she's in bankruptcy. She's Bogus!
: > :
: > : > HJ
: > :
: > : She's in Bankruptcy?!?
:
: > Get the hook out of your mouth, idiot.
:
: Oh, Kimberly Kay, you are such a bad liar:
:
: Debtor: BARNARD KIMBERLY K
: ] Debtor Address: *** * ******* **
: ] ******* ** *****
: ] Record Type: CHAPTER 7 DISCHARGED
: ] Court: CENTRAL DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS
: ] 130 FEDERAL BLDG 201 NORTH VERMILION ST
: ] DANVILLE IL 61832

That's not me

Next you'll be k'laming that you aren't 46 or an instructor at the
University of Wisc. at Parkside or live in Genoa City, Wisc.

Come off it, Kay!

Your Pal, HJ
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

Kali wrote:
Quote:

In <46A903A1.5C5A7BF2@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
:
:
: Hoofprints wrote:
:
: > Kali wrote:
:
: > > In <46A8BDB7.7976E0C@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > > :
: > > :
: > > : Kali wrote:
: > > :
: > > : > In <46A7667D.218B1D01@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > > : > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > > : > :
: > > : > :
: > > : > : Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA wrote:
: > > : > :
: > > : > : > From : Hoofprints <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com
: > > : > : > Message-ID : <46A4ED4F.DA739CFE@hotmail.com
: > > : > :
: > > : > :
: > > : > : > >Who ever was complaining about kimcunt telephoning their home, that is
: > > : > : > >nothing, they were also calling here asking for Two Steps when he lived
: > > : > : > >here
: > > : > :
: > > : > : > I hope my spirit didn't leave *there* without paying the rent.
: > > : > :
: > > : > : Your spirit left here without paying the rent..and food, and whatever
: > > : > : else was on the bill you are ignoring.
: > > : > : Damages were not included in the bill. Like ripped off shelves that
: > > : > : left holes etc. [you left in a tizzy and a hurry and also drunk].
: > > :
: > > : > What do you expect from a gay bohemian?
: > > :
: > > : You really are not that bright yaknow.
: > > : If he came back here he would be in handcuffs tied to the pool table
: > > : legs. I will throw a mattress on the floor and kick his bowl over to
: > > : him periodically.
:
: > > Kinky!
:
: > just your style eh!!
: > I don't have any handcuffs, but I think I know where to order the old
: > leather belts and cuffs.
: > I still have my cuff key from Sonoma on my work key holder.
: > No whistle though, I turned that back in down at Fairview.
:
:
: > > : I would tie him to the sink in the bathroom, but he knows how to get out
:
: > > Oh, you tried that already?
:
: > Howz about you pay the money he owes me, at a rate of 10% per day
: > interest.
: > You are the one who kept nominating both of us for AUK award after AUK
: > award, and then declared both of us 'DEAD'!!
: > Couldn't stand him living here could you?
:
: Hey kali,
: Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you can find a
: smaller interest rate on what you owe me. that way you actually save
: money even if it is a few percentage points under the 10% I want from
: you.

I owe you nothing.

: I don't mind losing the interest on $12,000.00, just want to get my
: house finished as was my original plan before you moved in and took over
: my home with your friends phone calls, your nominations, your false
: accusations about me.
: MS DDNoS Squawk.
:

No one I know ever called you, Goofy. I just got you awards for
being a kook on Usenet. I'm not interested in your personal
life.

Kali

What part of the 'internet' Usenet experience do *you* not understand is
part of my personal life??
You came into SMDH back in 2k2, you began emailing KS and so did Bill
*iceman*, CC's rl friend who went to jail, you have really no clue that
Usenet is also reality?
One of my philosophy profs here back in 97 began a class about usenet or
whatever and how people don't seem to perceive that a *real* person is
banging away at the keyboard and posting.
That means when hearts get broken, it is real tears that fall. [borrowed
from a CW song] Also anger at the heinous malicious vicious crap as
well. You are the one who lied to AUK and told them I was stalking you,
and they then 'outed' my real residential addy. You took it real time
when you called my Sheriffs Dept here. What did you think you were
doing if not playing a mind game in a real persons life?

For someone who is supposed to have a B+ university level GPA, you sure
are stupid!!

Why did you jump into a conversation I was having with Two Steps?
Did someone prompt you to do that?
Why are you acting like some child who thinks they can get in between
their parents?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re:SL operant conditioning Reply with quote

John \"C\" wrote:
Quote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Hey kali,
Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you can
find a
smaller interest rate on what you owe me.

She can't get a loan while she's in bankruptcy. She's Bogus!

HJ

She's in Bankruptcy?!?
She has been bogus from the start.
She can't file bankruptcy against her student loans, IIRC.
She will be able to file for the loan after Bankruptcy Ct.
Declares
her
Bankrupt.
From what I understand, once you file you can't file for another
14
years, so she should be able to get a loan that way.

One can declare bankruptcy twice in a seven year period. One
chapter 13
and
one chapter 7.

But on Chapter 7. You still have to pay your creditors?? or is that
Chapter 11?
At any rate, isn't chapter 7 a prelude to filing chapter 13?

Chapter 13 is: pay secured debts back over time (home and car) and don't
pay
unsecured debts (credit cards and medical bills). and if you can't pay
the
schedule then you file chapter 7 which wipes all debts (except student
loans). The only way student loans can be collected is by "eating" your
income tax refunds.

HJ (been there and done that)

So has my daughter. She got a huge return [she has children so gets
those 'credits' and deductions] and Student loan corp took her joint
refund. Then her husband filed some grievous whatever it was because
his income was figured into their joint return, and he wanted his half.

Paid off my student loan when I took out a mortgage on my home.

Some how my wife got her student loans deferred indefinitely. It was OK
with me.

HJ

There is a way to do it, I was thinking about deferring mine and did
until they decided to finally allow SL's to be deducted from your
taxes. I did go in and change my 8% rate to a fixed 4 or 5 %.
If you stay in school and carry at least 6 semester units [we are
semester system here], then you can defer it.
What I don't like is the part about if you have a BA or BS or other, you
have to pay more for community college classes.
I qualified for a CAL grant A or B back in 89 but they have changed the
rules on being able to file for that grant. You now have to be a first
year student.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

Kali wrote:
Quote:

In <46AA09A2.AA4E13E7@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
:
:
: Kali wrote:
:
: > In <46A8D708.75099315@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > :
: > :
: > : Kali wrote:
: > :
: > : > In <46A8BDB7.7976E0C@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > : > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > : > :
: > : > :
: > : > : Kali wrote:
: > : > :
: > : > : > In <46A7667D.218B1D01@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > : > : > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : Honorable Professeur Von TwoSteps OA wrote:
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > From : Hoofprints <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com
: > : > : > : > Message-ID : <46A4ED4F.DA739CFE@hotmail.com
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > >Who ever was complaining about kimcunt telephoning their home, that is
: > : > : > : > >nothing, they were also calling here asking for Two Steps when he lived
: > : > : > : > >here
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : > I hope my spirit didn't leave *there* without paying the rent.
: > : > : > :
: > : > : > : Your spirit left here without paying the rent..and food, and whatever
: > : > : > : else was on the bill you are ignoring.
: > : > : > : Damages were not included in the bill. Like ripped off shelves that
: > : > : > : left holes etc. [you left in a tizzy and a hurry and also drunk].
: > : > :
: > : > : > What do you expect from a gay bohemian?
: > : > :
: > : > : You really are not that bright yaknow.
: > : > : If he came back here he would be in handcuffs tied to the pool table
: > : > : legs. I will throw a mattress on the floor and kick his bowl over to
: > : > : him periodically.
: > :
: > : > Kinky!
: > :
: > : just your style eh!!
:
: > Apparently it's your style. You imagined it, you wrote it.
:
: > : I don't have any handcuffs, but I think I know where to order the old
: > : leather belts and cuffs.
: > : I still have my cuff key from Sonoma on my work key holder.
: > : No whistle though, I turned that back in down at Fairview.
:
: > Ok.
:
: > :
: > : > : I would tie him to the sink in the bathroom, but he knows how to get out
: > :
: > : > Oh, you tried that already?
: > :
: > : Howz about you pay the money he owes me, at a rate of 10% per day
: > : interest.
:
: > Money I owe you for what, precisely, Goofy?
:
: > You going to post an itemized bill?
:
: > : You are the one who kept nominating both of us for AUK award after AUK
: > : award, and then declared both of us 'DEAD'!!
:
: > You really do have an impressive collection of Usenet/AUK
: > awards.
:
: > : Couldn't stand him living here could you?
:
: > He's a poseur. Not my type.
:
: The stay the fuck out of the thread ok.

Ummmm. No.

: Go play your internet mind game
: crap somewhere else, and quit sticking your nose in where it doesn't
: belong.

LOL. You're posting his dirty panties in spp, Goofy. Anyone can
read and anyone can respond. If you don't like it, you may
leave.


That is quite correct, no argument from me on that one. I should not
have allowed you to bring that out in this thread, my fault. But you
have been sticking you nose into my business for over 5 years now. time
for you to stay the flock out of it.
hoof
Quote:
Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

John \"C\" wrote:
Quote:

"Kali" <kali@powder.keg> wrote in message
news:f8d31u$47e$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
In <gfWdnYaCNebNkDfbnZ2dnUVZ_rOpnZ2d@centurytel.net>, John "C"
honestjohn@centurytel.net said:
:
: "Kali" <kali@powder.keg> wrote in message
: news:f8d1jk$b3$5@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
: > In <46A9214F.B44E08DC@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > :
: > :
: > : John \"C\" wrote:
: > :
: > : > "Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: > :
: > : > > Hey kali,
: > : > > Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you can find
a
: > : > > smaller interest rate on what you owe me.
: > :
: > : > She can't get a loan while she's in bankruptcy. She's Bogus!
: > :
: > : > HJ
: > :
: > : She's in Bankruptcy?!?
:
: > Get the hook out of your mouth, idiot.
:
: Oh, Kimberly Kay, you are such a bad liar:
:
: Debtor: BARNARD KIMBERLY K
: ] Debtor Address: *** * ******* **
: ] ******* ** *****
: ] Record Type: CHAPTER 7 DISCHARGED
: ] Court: CENTRAL DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS
: ] 130 FEDERAL BLDG 201 NORTH VERMILION ST
: ] DANVILLE IL 61832

That's not me

Next you'll be k'laming that you aren't 46 or an instructor at the
University of Wisc. at Parkside or live in Genoa City, Wisc.

Come off it, Kay!

Whoa!! Kim Sequins middle name was also Kay...
And geographically isn't the town listed as her residential area just
over the border from Canada.

Quote:

Your Pal, HJ
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: operant conditioning Reply with quote

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46AA3344.84F49D47@hotmail.com...
Quote:


John \"C\" wrote:

"Kali" <kali@powder.keg> wrote in message
news:f8d31u$47e$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
In <gfWdnYaCNebNkDfbnZ2dnUVZ_rOpnZ2d@centurytel.net>, John "C"
honestjohn@centurytel.net said:
:
: "Kali" <kali@powder.keg> wrote in message
: news:f8d1jk$b3$5@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
: > In <46A9214F.B44E08DC@hotmail.com>, Hoofprints
: > equsphotogphr@hotmail.com said:
: > :
: > :
: > : John \"C\" wrote:
: > :
: > : > "Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: > :
: > : > > Hey kali,
: > : > > Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you can
find
a
: > : > > smaller interest rate on what you owe me.
: > :
: > : > She can't get a loan while she's in bankruptcy. She's Bogus!
: > :
: > : > HJ
: > :
: > : She's in Bankruptcy?!?
:
: > Get the hook out of your mouth, idiot.
:
: Oh, Kimberly Kay, you are such a bad liar:
:
: Debtor: BARNARD KIMBERLY K
: ] Debtor Address: *** * ******* **
: ] ******* ** *****
: ] Record Type: CHAPTER 7 DISCHARGED
: ] Court: CENTRAL DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS
: ] 130 FEDERAL BLDG 201 NORTH VERMILION ST
: ] DANVILLE IL 61832

That's not me

Next you'll be k'laming that you aren't 46 or an instructor at the
University of Wisc. at Parkside or live in Genoa City, Wisc.

Come off it, Kay!

Whoa!! Kim Sequins middle name was also Kay...
And geographically isn't the town listed as her residential area just
over the border from Canada.

Funny how those things happen.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:04 am    Post subject: Re: Re:SL operant conditioning Reply with quote

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:


John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46AA0864.91FB1426@hotmail.com...


John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46A92823.1A485701@hotmail.com...


John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46A9214F.B44E08DC@hotmail.com...


John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Hey kali,
Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you
can
find a
smaller interest rate on what you owe me.

She can't get a loan while she's in bankruptcy. She's
Bogus!

HJ

She's in Bankruptcy?!?
She has been bogus from the start.
She can't file bankruptcy against her student loans, IIRC.
She will be able to file for the loan after Bankruptcy Ct.
Declares
her
Bankrupt.
From what I understand, once you file you can't file for
another
14
years, so she should be able to get a loan that way.

One can declare bankruptcy twice in a seven year period. One
chapter 13
and
one chapter 7.

But on Chapter 7. You still have to pay your creditors?? or is
that
Chapter 11?
At any rate, isn't chapter 7 a prelude to filing chapter 13?

Chapter 13 is: pay secured debts back over time (home and car) and
don't
pay
unsecured debts (credit cards and medical bills). and if you can't
pay
the
schedule then you file chapter 7 which wipes all debts (except
student
loans). The only way student loans can be collected is by "eating"
your
income tax refunds.

HJ (been there and done that)

So has my daughter. She got a huge return [she has children so gets
those 'credits' and deductions] and Student loan corp took her joint
refund. Then her husband filed some grievous whatever it was because
his income was figured into their joint return, and he wanted his
half.

Paid off my student loan when I took out a mortgage on my home.

Some how my wife got her student loans deferred indefinitely. It was OK
with me.

HJ

There is a way to do it, I was thinking about deferring mine and did
until they decided to finally allow SL's to be deducted from your
taxes. I did go in and change my 8% rate to a fixed 4 or 5 %.
If you stay in school and carry at least 6 semester units [we are
semester system here], then you can defer it.
What I don't like is the part about if you have a BA or BS or other, you
have to pay more for community college classes.
I qualified for a CAL grant A or B back in 89 but they have changed the
rules on being able to file for that grant. You now have to be a first
year student.

Sounds complicated, like a normal government "SNAFU".
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: SL operant conditioning Reply with quote

John \"C\" wrote:
Quote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46AA3247.730F6D5C@hotmail.com...


John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46AA0864.91FB1426@hotmail.com...


John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46A92823.1A485701@hotmail.com...


John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46A9214F.B44E08DC@hotmail.com...


John \"C\" wrote:

"Hoofprints" <equsphotogphr@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Hey kali,
Why don't you go and apply for a loan, I am certain you
can
find a
smaller interest rate on what you owe me.

She can't get a loan while she's in bankruptcy. She's
Bogus!

HJ

She's in Bankruptcy?!?
She has been bogus from the start.
She can't file bankruptcy against her student loans, IIRC.
She will be able to file for the loan after Bankruptcy Ct.
Declares
her
Bankrupt.
From what I understand, once you file you can't file for
another
14
years, so she should be able to get a loan that way.

One can declare bankruptcy twice in a seven year period. One
chapter 13
and
one chapter 7.

But on Chapter 7. You still have to pay your creditors?? or is
that
Chapter 11?
At any rate, isn't chapter 7 a prelude to filing chapter 13?

Chapter 13 is: pay secured debts back over time (home and car) and
don't
pay
unsecured debts (credit cards and medical bills). and if you can't
pay
the
schedule then you file chapter 7 which wipes all debts (except
student
loans). The only way student loans can be collected is by "eating"
your
income tax refunds.

HJ (been there and done that)

So has my daughter. She got a huge return [she has children so gets
those 'credits' and deductions] and Student loan corp took her joint
refund. Then her husband filed some grievous whatever it was because
his income was figured into their joint return, and he wanted his
half.

Paid off my student loan when I took out a mortgage on my home.

Some how my wife got her student loans deferred indefinitely. It was OK
with me.

HJ

There is a way to do it, I was thinking about deferring mine and did
until they decided to finally allow SL's to be deducted from your
taxes. I did go in and change my 8% rate to a fixed 4 or 5 %.
If you stay in school and carry at least 6 semester units [we are
semester system here], then you can defer it.
What I don't like is the part about if you have a BA or BS or other, you
have to pay more for community college classes.
I qualified for a CAL grant A or B back in 89 but they have changed the
rules on being able to file for that grant. You now have to be a first
year student.

Sounds complicated, like a normal government "SNAFU".

The other side of the change is that with the new gpa ratings for high
school students who are in GATE are higher then others, so if a GATE
student pulls a straight A they are actually pulling a 5.0, while those
not in GATE with straight A's are pulling a 4.0 GPA. Which means that
the grant money is given to those in GATE whose GPA is higher.
It has been awhile since I have been through the process. I took out
the student loan because the Cal Grant was no longer available to me
based on the number of semester units I had acquired.

Some of my friends don't understand why I don't just get my BA, the
reason why is because I was thinking about taking some fresh/soph
classes at Community College level. + they began a Community College
around here that includes some paralegal courses through Fresno
Community College, I was hoping that they would start those classes out
this way near my satellite school, but they haven't. + they said I have
to take math to graduate, which I consider to be cruel and inhuman
punishment as I had those courses in high school, which wasn't even the
*new* math. + while my high school algebra and geometry helped me score
high [3rd[, on my state test for hire and fire in the Dept of Mental
Hygiene [old name for dept of mental health] when it came time to doing
pharmacy, much of what I had learned wasn't an issue as most of the meds
are already divided up into doses, Some of it I used to convert mgs etc.
but not much and now with their new system even divided doses are sent
in the individual carts for each patient, so all you have to do is pass
meds and sign for them. Of course you also have to check to make sure
the pharmacy got the cart right in the first place.
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