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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:15 am Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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Kathy C wrote:
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"Siteldawgnumber1" <Siteldawgnumber1@aol.com> wrote in message
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spyder359 <red@gun.org> wrote in news:1bZBj.2206$yD3.182@trnddc05:
Christ's Love wrote:
So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics
and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly
complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and
protein. These findings imply that life depends on having all these
elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about
spontaneously by chance.
Thus, in spite of the main body of your post - you know shit!
Ad hominem. Typical loser response.
argumentum ad personam, which consists of criticizing or personally
attacking an argument's proponent in an attempt to discredit that
argument. It is also used when an opponent is unable to find fault
with an argument, yet for various reasons, the opponent disagrees with
it. Many times, an opponent's use of an ad hominem attack is an
indication that the opponent realizes that the argument itself is
correct and cannot be refuted.
All those Jabriol posts, none of them refuted. Most of all those
threads, end up with attacks on Jabriol.
Oh, c'mon, Tony. It's fun to attack Jabriol.
None of them refuted? Well...that's quite an assertion.
Have you noticed he always posts as someone else and never himself
anymore? He's the only one who defends "himself.".... :-D
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Kathy C Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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"mariposas rand mair fheal" <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <47d8b61e$0$1344$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com>,
"Kathy C" <Kathy9045@gmail.com> wrote:
"mariposas rand mair fheal" <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <47d87994$0$1347$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com>,
"Kathy C" <Kathy9045@gmail.com> wrote:
"mariposas rand mair fheal" <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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i find him an idiot ignorant and well funded
a dangerous combination
Why do you find him an idiot? You know for a fact his IQ is extremely
low
and he is unable to learn?
yes
I see. So you are a psychiatrist and he is your idiot patient. Who then
posts under his name since idiots cannot read and write? If he's not
your
patient, then YOU are another lying slanderer here.
i do note youre not concerned about religious bigotry on principle
youre only concerned when youre the target
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Are you making *ME* your target? I'll say it again, if he's not your
patient, then YOU are another lying slanderer here.
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this must be your higher ethics than those evil theists
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What have my ethics got to do with your diagnosing a total stranger as an
"idiot?" Where are your ethics?
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arf meow arf - i dont like squishy
i think i hit a wookie on the expressway
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness |
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Killiam Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:58:30 -0500, "Killiam" <killiam@spammenot.com
wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:21:09 +0200, SeppoP
seppo_pietikainen@xyahoox.com> wrote:
Jabby? Education? Man, *get real*!
Antonio couldn't even get a blow job if he had $1000.
Jehovahs Witlesses aren't allowed to practice the deadly sin of ....
*GASP!*
...........oral sex.
Jabbers is so stupid that he assumes that 'oral sex' is 'talking about
it'.
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LOL! Too funny and probably true. I hear he's so desperate he has to pay
his own hand............. I'm still laughing over that one. LOL! |
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mariposas rand mair fheal Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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In article <47d95664$0$1347$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com>,
"Kathy C" <Kathy9045@gmail.com> wrote:
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"mariposas rand mair fheal" <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <47d8b61e$0$1344$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com>,
"Kathy C" <Kathy9045@gmail.com> wrote:
"mariposas rand mair fheal" <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <47d87994$0$1347$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com>,
"Kathy C" <Kathy9045@gmail.com> wrote:
"mariposas rand mair fheal" <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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i find him an idiot ignorant and well funded
a dangerous combination
Why do you find him an idiot? You know for a fact his IQ is extremely
low
and he is unable to learn?
yes
I see. So you are a psychiatrist and he is your idiot patient. Who then
posts under his name since idiots cannot read and write? If he's not
your
patient, then YOU are another lying slanderer here.
i do note youre not concerned about religious bigotry on principle
youre only concerned when youre the target
Are you making *ME* your target? I'll say it again, if he's not your
patient, then YOU are another lying slanderer here.
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this must be your higher ethics than those evil theists
What have my ethics got to do with your diagnosing a total stranger as an
"idiot?" Where are your ethics?
arf meow arf - i dont like squishy
i think i hit a wookie on the expressway
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness
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arf meow arf - i dont like squishy
i think i hit a wookie on the expressway
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness |
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MarkA Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:48:52 +0000, Christ's Love wrote:
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:00:10 GMT, Ye Old One <usenet@mcsuk.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:18:25 GMT, Tyger White <blanco@dot.org
enriched this group when s/he wrote:
THE DNA molecule does amazing things. DNA fulfills both the roles that
your cells require of genetic material. First, the DNA is accurately
duplicated so that information can be passed on from cell to cell.
Second, the DNA sequence tells the cell what proteins to make, thereby
determining what the cell will become and what function it will serve.
However, DNA does not carry out these processes on its own. Many
specialized proteins are involved.
DNA alone cannot create life. It contains all the instructions needed to
make all the proteins a living cell needs, including the very ones that
copy DNA for the next cell generation and the ones that help DNA to make
new proteins. Still, the incredible amount of information stored in the
DNA genes is useless without RNA and the specialized proteins, which
include ribosomes, needed to “read” and use that information.
Neither can proteins alone produce life. An isolated protein cannot
generate the gene that has the code for making more of that same type of
protein.
So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and
molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and
interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These
findings imply that life depends on having all these elements
simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by
chance.
Well it did, so you just have to live with it.
Too bad for you that you'll have to live with your error for an
eternity without being able to do anything about it.
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What kind of god would punish someone for eternity for making an honest
mistake? Only one kind: a cruel, sadistic one. If your god is a cruel
sadist, what makes you think he will send you to Heaven, even if you do
follow his rules?
--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
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MarkA Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: Dawkins the FOOL |
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:55:11 -0600, adman wrote:
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"MarkA" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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| On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:54:53 -0600, adman wrote:
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| > "MarkA" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| > news:pan.2008.03.12.16.04.15.213904@nowhere.com...
| > | On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:58:22 +0000, Uncle Vic wrote:
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| > | > One fine day in alt.atheism, mariposas rand mair fheal
| > | > <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
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| > | >> In article <Xns9A5DDB69FE3BBvicman@207.115.17.102>,
| > | >> Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
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| > | >>> One fine day in alt.atheism, mariposas rand mair fheal
| > | >>> <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
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| > | >>> > In article <MMednRDPwb8BeUjanZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@comcast.com>,
| > | >>> > DanielSan <danielsan1977@gmail.com> wrote:
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| > | >>> >> mariposas rand mair fheal said the following on 3/10/2008 5:12
PM:
| > | >>> >> >> findings imply that life depends on having all these
elements
| > | >>> >> >> simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about
| > | >>> >> >> spontaneously by chance.
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| > | >>> >> > given sufficient time molecules of air can arrange themselves
| > | >>> >> > into complex life
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| > | >>> >> > it may take several universes before this happens
| > | >>> >> > then again we may be the first universe in a trillion big
bangs
| > | >>> >> > to have life
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| > | >>> >> > there are too many unknowns to claim this probability or that
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| > | >>> >> Or, it's not as hard as people make it out to be.
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| > | >>> > knowing which
| > | >>> > thats the real trick
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| > | >>> One chance out of a billion, as Dawkins says. But that one chance
| > | >>> happened, so let's take it from there.
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| > | >> thats okay
| > | >> dawkins is an asshole
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| > |
| > | > He speaks his mind.
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| > | and is also very intelligent and well-informed. A valuable
combination.
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| > BWahahahahahahah!!!! [cough choke] megabites of laughs!!
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| Here's a link to Dawkins' CV:
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| http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/CV.shtml
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| How does yours stack up, asswipe?
Dawkins laughs every time he goes to the bank and collects his royalty check
from fools like you purchasing his books.
Dawkins will be the first to cry out to God for mercy when he is dying,
leaving you fools in the dust.
How about THAT!
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How about answering the question, asswipe?
--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
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mariposas rand mair fheal Guest
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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In article <pan.2008.03.13.17.44.45.456272@nowhere.com>,
MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote:
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What kind of god would punish someone for eternity for making an honest
mistake? Only one kind: a cruel, sadistic one. If your god is a cruel
sadist, what makes you think he will send you to Heaven, even if you do
follow his rules?
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an agnostic would have a better argument
that they made an -honest mistake-
than people who accuse gods they deny exist of being sadists
arf meow arf - i dont like squishy
i think i hit a wookie on the expressway
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness |
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spyder359 Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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Kathy C wrote:
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this must be your higher ethics than those evil theists
What have my ethics got to do with your diagnosing a total stranger as
an "idiot?"
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You're an atheist you have no ethics, and you are an idiot. |
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MarkA Guest
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:46 am Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:12:33 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal wrote:
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In article <pan.2008.03.13.17.44.45.456272@nowhere.com>,
MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote:
What kind of god would punish someone for eternity for making an honest
mistake? Only one kind: a cruel, sadistic one. If your god is a cruel
sadist, what makes you think he will send you to Heaven, even if you do
follow his rules?
an agnostic would have a better argument
that they made an -honest mistake-
than people who accuse gods they deny exist of being sadists
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I was speaking hypothetically. The poster was the one who posited that
non-believers will be punished for eternity. I was pointing out the
logical consequence of that idea. It doesn't mean that I subscribe to it.
--
MarkA
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:14 am Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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Christ's Love wrote:
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None of the atheist and humanists was able to reply. Keep up the good
work, Tyger.
They do reply, but with ad hominen attacks. They can't refute any |
argument posted by the "Jabriol" So I am told. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:47:30 GMT, Christ's Love
<christslove4you@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:17:54 GMT, William_Wingstedt@comcast.net
(William Wingstedt) wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:18:25 GMT, Tyger White <blanco@dot.org> wrote:
THE DNA molecule does amazing things. DNA fulfills both the roles that
your cells require of genetic material. First, the DNA is accurately
duplicated so that information can be passed on from cell to cell.
Second, the DNA sequence tells the cell what proteins to make, thereby
determining what the cell will become and what function it will serve.
However, DNA does not carry out these processes on its own. Many
specialized proteins are involved.
DNA alone cannot create life. It contains all the instructions needed to
make all the proteins a living cell needs, including the very ones that
copy DNA for the next cell generation and the ones that help DNA to make
new proteins. Still, the incredible amount of information stored in the
DNA genes is useless without RNA and the specialized proteins, which
include ribosomes, needed to “read” and use that information.
Neither can proteins alone produce life. An isolated protein cannot
generate the gene that has the code for making more of that same type of
protein.
So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and
molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and
interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These
findings imply that life depends on having all these elements
simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by
chance.
Yet, somehow, the non-evident superhero of your fairy tale can.
Are you referring to God?
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Apparently I am referring to the product of your delusion that you
have assigned that word to.
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He always was and always will be.
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You don't, can't and never will know that.
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Unlike you
and your stupidity.
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Ouch! Did that make you feel better?
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Always remember: Christ loves you and so do I!
Every single one of you!
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Please resume the absence that kindled the fondness you have for
everybody. We'll carry on without you. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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spyder359 wrote:
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Kathy C wrote:
this must be your higher ethics than those evil theists
What have my ethics got to do with your diagnosing a total stranger as
an "idiot?"
You're an atheist you have no ethics, and you are an idiot.
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Yeah, but she's a snappy dresser... |
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Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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Hoots <ratty_dew@yahoo.com> wrote in news:UduCj.17790$Er2.15622
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spyder359 wrote:
Kathy C wrote:
this must be your higher ethics than those evil theists
What have my ethics got to do with your diagnosing a total stranger as
an "idiot?"
You're an atheist you have no ethics, and you are an idiot.
Yeah, but she's a snappy dresser...
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Well, I've seen the pics from the website, she looked pretty hot back in
the day. ;>D |
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:30:39 -0400, Hoots <ratty_dew@yahoo.com> wrote:
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spyder359 wrote:
Kathy C wrote:
this must be your higher ethics than those evil theists
What have my ethics got to do with your diagnosing a total stranger as
an "idiot?"
You're an atheist you have no ethics, and you are an idiot.
Yeah, but she's a snappy dresser...
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:05 am Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? |
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On 15 Mar 2008 03:40:24 GMT, Siteldawgnumber1
<Siteldawgnumber1@aol.com> wrote:
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Hoots <ratty_dew@yahoo.com> wrote in news:UduCj.17790$Er2.15622
@bignews6.bellsouth.net:
spyder359 wrote:
Kathy C wrote:
this must be your higher ethics than those evil theists
What have my ethics got to do with your diagnosing a total stranger as
an "idiot?"
You're an atheist you have no ethics, and you are an idiot.
Yeah, but she's a snappy dresser...
Well, I've seen the pics from the website, she looked pretty hot back in
the day. ;>D
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