Biology Talk Biology Talk    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  DNA by Chance? Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next          Biology Talk Forum Index -> Biotechnology View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Tyger White Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:18 am    Post subject: DNA by Chance? THE DNA molecule does amazing things. DNA fulfills both the roles that your cells require of genetic material. First, the DNA is accurately duplicated so that information can be passed on from cell to cell. Second, the DNA sequence tells the cell what proteins to make, thereby determining what the cell will become and what function it will serve. However, DNA does not carry out these processes on its own. Many specialized proteins are involved. DNA alone cannot create life. It contains all the instructions needed to make all the proteins a living cell needs, including the very ones that copy DNA for the next cell generation and the ones that help DNA to make new proteins. Still, the incredible amount of information stored in the DNA genes is useless without RNA and the specialized proteins, which include ribosomes, needed to “read” and use that information. Neither can proteins alone produce life. An isolated protein cannot generate the gene that has the code for making more of that same type of protein. So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Randy Gulley Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:18 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? TROLL ALERT! "Ips-Switch" <WatchtowerExposed@this.org> wrote in news:47d5d942$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com: Quote: "John Smith" <bobsyoungbro@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:DCkBj.17500$er2.14265@trnddc08... "Tyger White" <blanco@dot.org> wrote in message news:5ljBj.17495$er2.5774@trnddc08... So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. Thus, in spite of the main body of your post - you know shit! It's more jabber C&P from the WTS CDs. Tell us lying fucking Chatty-Kathy cunt, why did you spend those 20 years going to the meeting? How many hiliters did you ware out every Sunday? Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor John Smith Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? "Tyger White" <blanco@dot.org> wrote in message news:5ljBj.17495$er2.5774@trnddc08... Quote: THE DNA molecule does amazing things. DNA fulfills both the roles that your cells require of genetic material. First, the DNA is accurately duplicated so that information can be passed on from cell to cell. Second, the DNA sequence tells the cell what proteins to make, thereby determining what the cell will become and what function it will serve. However, DNA does not carry out these processes on its own. Many specialized proteins are involved. DNA alone cannot create life. It contains all the instructions needed to make all the proteins a living cell needs, including the very ones that copy DNA for the next cell generation and the ones that help DNA to make new proteins. Still, the incredible amount of information stored in the DNA genes is useless without RNA and the specialized proteins, which include ribosomes, needed to “read” and use that information. Neither can proteins alone produce life. An isolated protein cannot generate the gene that has the code for making more of that same type of protein. So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. Thus, in spite of the main body of your post - you know shit! Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor John Baker Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:56 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:18:25 GMT, Tyger White <blanco@dot.org> wrote: Quote: THE DNA molecule does amazing things. DNA fulfills both the roles that your cells require of genetic material. First, the DNA is accurately duplicated so that information can be passed on from cell to cell. Second, the DNA sequence tells the cell what proteins to make, thereby determining what the cell will become and what function it will serve. However, DNA does not carry out these processes on its own. Many specialized proteins are involved. DNA alone cannot create life. It contains all the instructions needed to make all the proteins a living cell needs, including the very ones that copy DNA for the next cell generation and the ones that help DNA to make new proteins. Still, the incredible amount of information stored in the DNA genes is useless without RNA and the specialized proteins, which include ribosomes, needed to “read” and use that information. Neither can proteins alone produce life. An isolated protein cannot generate the gene that has the code for making more of that same type of protein. So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. Training for the Olympic stupid team, Sport? Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Ips-Switch Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? TROLL ALERT! "John Smith" <bobsyoungbro@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:DCkBj.17500$er2.14265@trnddc08... Quote: "Tyger White" <blanco@dot.org> wrote in message news:5ljBj.17495$er2.5774@trnddc08... So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. Thus, in spite of the main body of your post - you know shit! It's more jabber C&P from the WTS CDs. Quote: Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor mariposas rand mair fheal Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? Quote: findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. given sufficient time molecules of air can arrange themselves into complex life it may take several universes before this happens then again we may be the first universe in a trillion big bangs to have life there are too many unknowns to claim this probability or that arf meow arf - i dont like squishy i think i hit a wookie on the expressway nobody could do that much decoupage without calling on the powers of darkness Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor William Wingstedt Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:18:25 GMT, Tyger White <blanco@dot.org> wrote: Quote: THE DNA molecule does amazing things. DNA fulfills both the roles that your cells require of genetic material. First, the DNA is accurately duplicated so that information can be passed on from cell to cell. Second, the DNA sequence tells the cell what proteins to make, thereby determining what the cell will become and what function it will serve. However, DNA does not carry out these processes on its own. Many specialized proteins are involved. DNA alone cannot create life. It contains all the instructions needed to make all the proteins a living cell needs, including the very ones that copy DNA for the next cell generation and the ones that help DNA to make new proteins. Still, the incredible amount of information stored in the DNA genes is useless without RNA and the specialized proteins, which include ribosomes, needed to “read” and use that information. Neither can proteins alone produce life. An isolated protein cannot generate the gene that has the code for making more of that same type of protein. So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. Yet, somehow, the non-evident superhero of your fairy tale can. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Mark K. Bilbo Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:18:25 +0000 in 5ljBj.17495$er2.5774@trnddc08, Tyger White <blanco@dot.org> wrote: Quote: So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. Look, we know you don't understand science, you don't have to keep proving it to us... -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ “A national political campaign is better than the best circus ever heard of, with a mass baptism and a couple of hangings thrown in. â€� - H. L. Mencken Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Budikka666 Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:55 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? On Mar 10, 5:18 pm, Tyger White <bla...@dot.org> wrote: Quote: THE DNA molecule does amazing things. DNA fulfills both the roles that your cells require of genetic material. First, the DNA is accurately duplicated so that information can be passed on from cell to cell. Second, the DNA sequence tells the cell what proteins to make, thereby determining what the cell will become and what function it will serve. However, DNA does not carry out these processes on its own. Many specialized proteins are involved. DNA alone cannot create life. It contains all the instructions needed to make all the proteins a living cell needs, including the very ones that copy DNA for the next cell generation and the ones that help DNA to make new proteins. Still, the incredible amount of information stored in the DNA genes is useless without RNA and the specialized proteins, which include ribosomes, needed to "read" and use that information. Neither can proteins alone produce life. An isolated protein cannot generate the gene that has the code for making more of that same type of protein. So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. Now if you could show us some examples of 3.8 billion year old cells, and show that they are *exactly* like modern cells, then you might be able to make this argument, but since you're arguing about modern cells and no evolutionist has *ever* said cells first arose that looked and acted *exactly* like modern ones (it's actually the creationists who make that argument), you have nothing here but a straw man. So sorry. Do try again when you have an actual, supported, relevant argument. It's okay to get a grown-up to help. Thanks for playing. Buh-bye now. Budikka. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Budikka666 Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? TROLL ALERT! On Mar 10, 6:59 pm, "Ips-Switch" <WatchtowerExpo...@this.org> wrote: Quote: "John Smith" <bobsyoung...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:DCkBj.17500$er2.14265@trnddc08... "Tyger White" <bla...@dot.org> wrote in message news:5ljBj.17495$er2.5774@trnddc08... So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. Thus, in spite of the main body of your post - you know shit! It's more jabber C&P from the WTS CDs. I'll second that exposé. He thinks he's a tiger, but he's just a pussy! LoL! Budikka Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor mariposas rand mair fheal Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? In article <MMednRDPwb8BeUjanZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@comcast.com>, DanielSan <danielsan1977@gmail.com> wrote: Quote: mariposas rand mair fheal said the following on 3/10/2008 5:12 PM: findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. given sufficient time molecules of air can arrange themselves into complex life it may take several universes before this happens then again we may be the first universe in a trillion big bangs to have life there are too many unknowns to claim this probability or that Or, it's not as hard as people make it out to be. knowing which thats the real trick arf meow arf - i dont like squishy i think i hit a wookie on the expressway nobody could do that much decoupage without calling on the powers of darkness Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Michael Gray Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:18:25 GMT, Tyger White <blanco@dot.org> wrote: <Dishonest ignorant question-begging lies snipped> Oh look. Nothing left, jabriol. Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Bob Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:18:25 GMT, Tyger White <blanco@dot.org> wrote: Quote: THE DNA molecule does amazing things. DNA fulfills both the roles that your cells require of genetic material. First, the DNA is accurately duplicated so that information can be passed on from cell to cell. Second, the DNA sequence tells the cell what proteins to make, thereby determining what the cell will become and what function it will serve. However, DNA does not carry out these processes on its own. Many specialized proteins are involved. DNA alone cannot create life. It contains all the instructions needed to make all the proteins a living cell needs, including the very ones that copy DNA for the next cell generation and the ones that help DNA to make new proteins. Still, the incredible amount of information stored in the DNA genes is useless without RNA and the specialized proteins, which include ribosomes, needed to “read” and use that information. Neither can proteins alone produce life. An isolated protein cannot generate the gene that has the code for making more of that same type of protein. So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. ok so far. Quote: These findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. No, that is quite an illogical conclusion. Go read about "RNA world". bob Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor DanielSan Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? mariposas rand mair fheal said the following on 3/10/2008 5:12 PM: Quote: findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. given sufficient time molecules of air can arrange themselves into complex life it may take several universes before this happens then again we may be the first universe in a trillion big bangs to have life there are too many unknowns to claim this probability or that Or, it's not as hard as people make it out to be. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act * * of the whole American people which declared that * * their legislature should make no law respecting * * an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the * * free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of * * separation between church and state." * * --Thomas Jefferson, 1802 * **************************************************** Back to top   Ads Advertising Sponsor Uncle Vic Guest Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: DNA by Chance? One fine day in alt.atheism, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote: Quote: On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:18:25 GMT, Tyger White <blanco@dot.org> wrote: THE DNA molecule does amazing things. DNA fulfills both the roles that your cells require of genetic material. First, the DNA is accurately duplicated so that information can be passed on from cell to cell. Second, the DNA sequence tells the cell what proteins to make, thereby determining what the cell will become and what function it will serve. However, DNA does not carry out these processes on its own. Many specialized proteins are involved. DNA alone cannot create life. It contains all the instructions needed to make all the proteins a living cell needs, including the very ones that copy DNA for the next cell generation and the ones that help DNA to make new proteins. Still, the incredible amount of information stored in the DNA genes is useless without RNA and the specialized proteins, which include ribosomes, needed to “read” and use that information. Neither can proteins alone produce life. An isolated protein cannot generate the gene that has the code for making more of that same type of protein. So, what has unraveling the mystery of life shown? Modern genetics and molecular biology have provided ample evidence of the highly complex and interdependent relationships between DNA, RNA, and protein. These findings imply that life depends on having all these elements simultaneously. Thus, life could never have come about spontaneously by chance. Training for the Olympic stupid team, Sport? Maybe the extra-special olympics. -- Uncle Vic aa Atheist #2011 Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department. Convicted by Earthquack. 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